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I would say keep the b/g stuff for porn sites. I personally like the models teasing. While there are a couple girls I would love to see step up their level of tease it should still be a tease.
Thanks. We are not changing TM or MC. These sites will stay how they are in terms of tease. No b/g will ever be on MC specifically.
I am all for Model freedom but I also hope that they keep the tone pretty much the same. If someone wants to show a bit more, that’s all good (See through, lose the hand bras, etc.) because the sets can go that route too without totally changing the format. From a business standpoint, once a model goes down the HC path it is a point of no return. Tamer sets (I would guess) start to not sell as well as fans want more of the harder stuff. It is about model freedom but also product integrity.
I must say that I did not expect marvelfans to become what it has. I was very excited to join because I just wanted more Val and Becca and felt that their content on marvelcharm was too limited. I am pleasantly surprised that they are frequent posters and about what they are posting. I certainly never expected to see some of the more hardcore stuff being posted.
That said, I am really enjoying most of it, and trying to support my favorite models by buying their content. I am all for it continuing as it is. I think it can be like onlyfans where the models post what they want and are comfortable with, and their fans/supporters will find them.
I understand that this is still a very new venture and that it will evolve into something different in the future, but without the Anita girls, I probably would lose interest. They are the ones who got me to visit marvelcharm initially and are really the only ones I spend money on.
For the pay per view items, it would be ideal if there was a bit more info to go on, e.g. blurred previews, etc.
I bought the set from Val that mentioned “handjob” in the description and I think something was lost in translation. It was a decent set, just not what I was expecting and had I known would have put that money towards one of the many other items I was interested in.
Also can someone let Rikki know about this and talk her into coming back to play?
Oh yeah, of course TM and MC are staying exactly how they are. We are not considering changing this NO MATTER WHAT. This is about MF. I don’t care if we make $0 from a normal Simona set, it won’t change here.
If this was an open platform & not directly for the websites, then I would say all is open. This is open only to the model of MC & TM. it suppose to be a safe place for the models to interact with fans. They have enough pressure to deal with, without fans pointing fingers & going “look this model is doing it, why don’t you?”. I’m all open to hardcore if they want, but do it on OF
You are suggesting it’s not safe, but in fact the models requested a fan site because we were the ones who could make it safe for them. And “do it on OF”… MF was made partly because it satisfies those “OF” urges from both models and customers. They wouldn’t put out hardcore content on a website where the site owners don’t care about them or have any history of protecting them like we have. Think about it from the models perspective.
I don’t mean it’s not safe. I know you guys do everything you can to protect & insure these young woman are comfortable. Unfortunately people are not that kind. They deal with a lot of pressure in the industry. It hard enough with just comments on their photoshoots. Now they have direct contact with the same fans.
If a fan is being rude or pressuring them, they will get a ban. It’s that simple.
Have to play Follow the Leader here:
OF does NOT GIVE A FLYING FUCK about Model Health or Customer Satisfaction. Imagine you are at the cash registry of a food vendor and everyone brings you their three days spoiled milk, only its your pussy and their limp dick instead and your boss tells you, its your problem everytime…
Every complaint you have about anything has to go through the model, to the point they grow apathic. I got blocked for asking to pay for last month release 3 times, because She was (pobably) overworked and keeps sending me wrong links. DM gets restricted because tipping 10$ ain’t gonna cut it, if you say hi these days… (making requests? Not me, too dangerous!) => OF does not return 6 months subscriptions even if models cut you out for reasons beyond comprehension. I had better and cheaper days at the local brothel than on OF…
THIS much smaller community (MF) has the ability and will to care about both sides FROM both sides. I felt bad, complaining to Simona about duplicates in two paid posts but we live and learn.
I guess I´m in the tolerant camp. The problem is that I love what Anita´s team have done so far but is afraid were they are heading. Holding my thumbs that their biggest star don´t release blowjobs and such content. I´m not going to pay a single dollar to see dicks in a video. Already unsubscribed two accounts
Correct. Tolerant up to a specific breaking point… and seeing anything that isn’t female is the break point. A little bit of “purity”, but mainly “tolerant” if you were liking their content up until that point.
Exactly. Most of my purchases have gone to them the last few years. They have the classic posing, own style, great models and they seems to have so fun shooting so I´m never dissapointed. No problem with the duo or multimodels shots, love that. I just would hate to see the modeling side go down for some reason.
I’ve read the post linked from Marvelfan and agree with every word he says.
For me, the dividing line is whether there’s a man in the vid / pics. I want to imagine myself being there & that ruins the illusion for me. There are plenty of other sites out here that do that.
Girl / girl, toys, plugs etc. are all great & I would like to see more of them. The Rebecca / Val vid with the toy is something I’ve wanted to see for years & the Rebecca elf vid is epic too.
I’ve bought everything that Rebecca has put up on the site (& every MC set of hers too) and will continue to do so for the foreseeable future. If she puts up a boy / girl vid, yes, I’d buy it, but some of the magic would be lost for me. Would that ultimately result in less purchases of her stuff, yes, it probably would.
The other concern I’d have is whether the b/g content would put other models off from joining marvelfans site. I know you have previously mentioned lili joining. I’d be worried that the b/g stuff being put out would stop her from doing so.
I agree. And Becca is very unlikely to go that route.
Curious, would your opinion on harder content change if it was restricted to “pay to unlock” in private messages only? Right now, models can mass message content to their subscribers so that it doesn’t appear in the feed. I am curious if that would change someone’s perspective (e.g. they wouldn’t have a random d*ck pop up on their feed while scrolling). This is all theoretical, I’m not advocating for this change, I am simply wondering.
I realize that just “no guys, period” is the simplest way to solve the issue. I want to get down to the very tiny details though. What one would think of certain scenarios, etc.
If it was pay to unlock via a PM & a model I followed (e.g. Rebecca / Lili), I would still have to buy it as I wouldn’t want to miss out. n.b. I’d be very happy to get messages like that from my favourite models as it feels a bit more personal. However if the content was b/g it would harm my desire for that model in the long term. I’d still buy it initially, but I know my interest would fade over time.
Message feed content has one draw back: If you are not subscribed you miss it AND if you are restricted by a user you effectively pay for half (or less) the content. So I do not like the idea. in general.
Having HC Post with ‘clean’ previews and clear Description in the title and then ‘order’ them via ‘Comment + Tip’ is extra work for the models but is practice on other plattforms.Having videos (on demand) sent via DM requires models to keep a ‘Sticky’ Post with and updated catalog (in case I missed a DM or was not subscribed) and ‘Tip Order’ (same as above).
If it was possible to implement, you could give each creator THEIR OWN SHOP PAGE. Leave it out of DM and Blog feed but accessable. Order and Payment would be an ‘automatic’ process, So the girls don’t need to do end customer retail and support and leave the DMs for custom requests etc.
I say let the models make the content they want, for those that want to see it. For the purists, MC and TM, and even most of MF are not changing from what you’re used to. Any HC / b/g content is most likely going to stay behind an extra paywall identifying it as such, even when you’re subbed to those models – it’s as simple as scrolling by and not buying it if you don’t want to see it. MF is a new (clearly successful) added perk for fans and models, with a concept that can be friendlier for those of us that enjoy content from either of the three categories Admin listed (especially from MC/TM caliber models), along with plenty of content for the purists as well. Like you said, the skyrocketing prices for super short vids or just a few pics is a separate, but valid, concern, but nobody is making anybody buy them. I don’t think the presence of HC content will detract sales from the models that don’t do that content, since their fans clearly still like their tease content, and I think (hope) the vast majority of fans of this site are respectful with the models, and if not they should block them. Now if there are any models on MF that just morally object to being featured on the same site where some HC content can be purchased, then I guess that could be a problem, but hopefully that’s not the case.
It’s their life, let them do whatever they feel like doing.
Sometimes I find it interesting, other times I do not, who am I to judge them for they do, and who are you?
Let the cards fall as they may.
er what they do.
MS talk there, I’m hopeless sometimes…
No time to go into a length discussion of why, so I’ll be quick, I’m very much into the Anything Goes Camp and enjoying the hardcore content
I was pondering all that as well. See let’s try to organize all my thoughts: You could put me in Camp 2.
1) I am a glamour Model fan, this is how I found MC and would even pay for No Nude content if it is good (e.g. Rikki, Daria, Hanna + her girls) and am thinking about subscribing to Hanna, to detox a little to be honest.
2) I enjoy the Softcore on MC and won’t spoil the fun for the AniTa + crew at large. Val and Stella have been getting bolder for years and are not getting younger so ‘Upping the Ante’ is what kept them going. If the other girls feel adventureous I support them. Still, Artsy (extreme) softcore is better than hardcore.
3) I liked AniTa’s posts and bought most of them. She experiments a lot with new ideas and throwing ~15$ at it, is worth it. if the girls enjoy themselves, each other and a bunch of toys i will, too. (Group) Cosplay (and roleplay) is a good Idea, MC should try to re-adopt that.
4) In fact I would gladly BUY WEEKLY UPDATES from the ‘Anita Crew’ just doing ‘the regular’ using the MF shop. (~100 pics, ~5 minute video ~15$). Becca is legit the only girl I do not instabuy, because she has content in spades (multiple choice paralysis… its a thing)
4a) I’d also pay for Anita doing livestream cooking and inviting the girls but that is just my withdrawal kicking in.
—————————————————— Here I draw the Line ————————————————— 😛
5) I do not need porn of ANY of the girls. I enjoyed Simona’s masturbation / pussy play video’s but I do not need Dildos or Dicks doing full penetration in any shot. If passion overtakes the girls in a session I will share in the fun but I won’t jump on that content any time soon.
6) And if you do HC I will measure it against the Industry standard, which would mean I’d ask for 20~ minute videos, 4k, Decent camera angles, lighting etc. (What Jiri and Anita are already doing on the regular softcore). Same with b/g content: Anisa and Simona can go Full Throttle with their patners but I ain’t paying for anything less. I require the girl to legit enjoy it as well, no point in paying for workout sex.
6a) On that note: I feel we missed some steps in the progression ladder. Anisa burns so fast and now we have Simona half way there. I would have enjoyed and payed for softer stuff on the way.
Thank you. I agree with it all.
The harder content was not Anita’s idea, it was simply the girls at home doing what they think would work. I think Anita’s content is the best and most creative, she has always been this way going back to even before MC. And that progression jump, yeah it could be smoother for Simona. Anisa was always like Val in style, so I wasn’t surprised by her. But with our focus on a lot of the newer / semi-NN models here, an MF page actually works great for her. I think at this point everyone can tell the girls really enjoy making content for their pages.
Marvel’s kitchen,am I right? MC very own food-porn site. I’ll never learn to cook otherwise. 😀
I’d say I am in the anything goes camp.
Totally agree That how things are done in MC and TM should stay as it is. But largely think all these decisions should be left to what the model is comfortable with.
You have your rules on how your sites go and that’s fantastic. You provide a quality experience and the sites are fantastic. But leave it up to them what they want to do on the OF like site.
Well, I’m a big fan of tease modelling and that’s why I followed MC and TM for many years. I’m happy that you confirm that those sites will stay that way, Referring to MarvelFans, I’m sorry, but I’ve tried it, and I didn’t like it, all my issues and fears were confirmed (whenever you open a discussion on that, I’d like to express my opinion, since I didn’t want to say anything not good on the girls’ pages) and adding HC contents would not change my opinion, probably the opposite. I see more cons than pros in the HC content and I see it as a short-term solution to create more income, but in the long term, I don’t see it as a sound strategy. With too many competitors, free and pay, and you already have an issue with illegal sharing, that HC in my opinion could only increase. My difficulty in having a clear opinion is that you have models that struggle to go topless, and models that are willing to do HC, and I don’t know how you can enable those to meet. Maybe creating another “site” devoted to HC? I’m trying to help somehow, but I get that since I’m not that interested, I’m probably just rambling…
We’re not entertaining the thought of making HC content, or opening another site for that exclusively. It’s of no interest to me, and nobody on the team has any desire to go that route. It’s not our specialty.
This is a separate issue about what the models themselves are making for MarvelFans. And about some models not even going topless while some are doing much more, the popular phrase of “this person’s beliefs do not represent the company’s beliefs” would apply here.
I fully agree about short term income from sexier content. Tease content is not only more popular, but more lucrative long term. Even the top OF models are just tease models who don’t show anything. And our fans enjoy tease content more than anything, so that is what we will keep doing.
To admin’s point about tease content, that’s true but I think most fans that follow our favorite tease models for years are ultimately hoping for stages of progression, until one day we finally get to see all of them, and then we still follow and support them as we are loyal and appreciative of the payoff, to me that is most ideal.
I totally agree with you Christopher!!!!
To be honest, let them do what they want. As you said they are adults and the most that everyone can do is inform and try for them to be conscious of the path. Putting strains on the models can be worst than letting each one choose they path… also the 2 side, anitta crew and the others, for example, so if our favs are on your side and the models have they wish to be more bold, its a cut to know that they are blocked at the start. Many prob been here years wishing to bolder moves…. so limiting the topics even against models wishes…. can not be the right path… just my opinion
I joined MF not expecting much. But I was pleasantly surprised about the interaction, the constant updates and variety.
I’ll keep going back to MF, I would let that play whatever path It takes. And if I don’t like the path of a model, I just would say thanks and goodbye and unsubscribe. Maybe just buy the content on MC where you have rules and the length/quality of a set is great.
Have really enjoyed the HC material, but I think I’d probably prefer if it was sent to me (or subscribers) in a private message so it’s a bit more special.
Just an update: I have talked to Anita, and she agrees that g/g content should be the focus for her models who want to be a little more bold than the others. So that is what they will try to focus on instead of anything related with b/g content. I welcome a healthy middle ground.
Please note that this is only a recommendation and not a block on that content. If they want to make that content, they still can. But they understand our guidance is what will make them the most money, and having 2 bosses recommend a direction will comfort them. They were still unsure of what content to make.
All models outside of Anita’s crew still have the “Marvel” restrictions. They are to remain mostly tease models.
Keep the feedback coming. We appreciate it.
I understand every point said by all the members and the admin, and i understand the point of seeing “our” princesses in other ways… can be strange.
So as my final opinion/sugestion, maybe some kind of profile tags, as if some kind of content informer associated to the model profiles, pointing to the type of content they are willing to do, even for avoiding they private harrassment….
so publicly, just regulated content, if people want more, and if the profile is tagged like that, just ask privatly.
My comment is for HC fans. Do you really want another website to enter the billions of HC websites out there? MF was meant to help the models to gain more money especially now with the economic situation. The website is not meant to do stuff that was banned in TM/MC in the first place. Everything that is happening in MF is under Marvel’s name. Is like a company with human rights and against war but they have another company under the same mother company name building mass destruction weapons. You see how hypocritical it is. Anything that will happen in MF will affect the main website in the long run. Models like Lili, Kayley and Phoebe, and so on will not join a site that promotes porn.
Rules and regulations are meant to be followed period. If the models can do whatever they like then what makes the fans not do the same thing. .
Male is not allowed in TM, MC HP LM & MF period.
I think if the models want to do harder stuff, then why not let them? They can still do both for those who wish to see just the modeling. As long as it is the choice of the models and no one is forcing them or coercing them do things they aren’t comfortable with. I am definitely in the Anything Goes Camp, jsut s long as it’s the Girl’s choice.
I don’t know if my reaction is still relevant given the latest updated provided by admin, but this is the idea I’ve had in mind:
Have a hardcore on/off button on our profile pages and have a way for the models who post hardcore content to mark it as such.
That way, if a users has it switched off they won’t even see it’s there.
Additionally, only selected models (Val, Simona, Anisa) would even see / have the option to mark a post as hardcore content.
This is more of a fundamental issue which I don’t think a toggle would solve. But I understand this suggestion is very similar to toggling nsfw content on social media or something. To me, this is much more complex and requires lots of feedback. But I think I have a much better understanding of the direction of the website now going forward.
Hi,
I agree with your assesment. I propably wont buy any b/g content, but the g/g stuff from Anita and co is so far exceptional. I love the personal touch and playfulness.
Personally, I prefer models to be free to do whatever they want, if that includes sex, it’s fine for me, if it’s fine for the model too.
I’m liking the site and look forward for more content. I would love if the girls would make there videos longer I noticed that some are posting the length of the video which is nice. If possible it would be great to get to buy some videos that are 5-10min long. I love all the types of content starting to pop up 
I am really all for the intense girl girl stuff. I’m really not concerned how hard-core that gets because they are clearly enjoying each other. I would be thrilled to see them really and obviously come, either with a toy or with each other. However, I am not particularly thrilled about the male female stuff. It very well could be because we as an audience have built up certain ideas about the girls that may not be connected with reality. This is not uncommon nor is it something that is undesirable to have happen. Our own fantasies are a major part of this experience. As far as hard-core boy girl experiences go,
I’m going to generally stay away from it, although I’m not going to say never. If it looks like Val is having a great time with a man, I just might buy it. But I am mostly against bringing guys into the mix here. It may be based upon my own images of the girls, but the second I see Vanessa with a d!&k in her mouth, I’m out of here.
I think you are correct on everything. I believe our reputation would suffer.
and that won’t happen with Vanessa.
May I start by saying how much I love marvelfans. It’s a great concept!
If I have one criticism, it is this. No preview pics. If I’m going to spend 20, 25, 30 or even 40 dollars. It want a some idea of what I am getting. I’m afraid a couple of words & a few emojis don’t sell it for me. I would have bought more content but hate the idea of paying for something & it’s not what I want or expected.
The Hardcore thing…
I liked the Marvel sites because it wasn’t HC porn. I like the idea that the girls don’t get pressured into doing stuff that they don’t want to do. We all know that coercion exists with in the porn industry.
I think if any kind of HC porn comes into the marvel realm There will be pressure for the other models to follow. Either from the fans demanding it or maybe the models might think that if they don’t go harder they might lose popularity & get dropped.
I think if any of the models want to do hardcore, fine but do it on a different platform.
Hardcore material may also put potential models off from joining the marvel network too.
Great points and I agree.
We have come to realize that even if we didn’t give the “ok” to a model’s decision to upload something, that still reflects on us. If Val uploaded b/g content, we had nothing to do with her decision, but we are still the website behind her.
After lots of thought, here is where I stand currently.
It looks like 95% are okay with girls having fun with girls. We have already done that at MC and TM, so this isn’t surprising. What it comes down to now is analyzing how it would ruin our reputation by going further.
The question becomes: Would those in the Purity camp or Tolerant camp dislike us if we allowed such content? The risk of customer alienation here is too high for me.
Meanwhile, for those in the “Anything Goes” camp, while you still approve of the content, you would not dislike our sites or leave if we blocked this content going forward. The people in the Anything Goes camp will still be with us even if we forbid certain content, whereas the other two camps of people would possibly leave if we allowed it.
Therefore, the solution simply is to not allow it, because nobody would leave our sites because of this decision.
Let me know if you agree.
As someone whos interested in the b/g content, I’m definitely biased towards allowing it if it’s what they want to do.
My question would be: for the girls who are interested in providing that kind of content, does “banning” it risk them to going elsewhere, at which point everybody loses?
Someone above suggested a filter to hide that sort of content even if you are subscribed to their page. No idea how feasible that is, but it sounds like it could be a happy medium.
No, they would not leave. Ultimately they do this for money, and with their entire audience here, it makes no sense to rebuild an audience elsewhere just to make b/g content. The content style is not as important compared to how much money they can make creating the content people will pay for.
We also always listen to our models, and do our best to make sure they’re happy. And right now, they are extremely happy.
I actually wonder if before taking the step like that it would be beneficial to at least demand more accurate descriptions of sets. There is, for example, a set describing Rebecca having sex. I would like to know more details before I invest in it. Is this the set that there is a picture of her with Val? Is it something else? I think describing what is in a set might help resolve things at least in part. A sample photo or a screenshot would be a good idea.
And we’ll talk about the prices later. Right now I’m getting nothing for my subscription except the opportunity to spend more money LOL.
Anything with Becca about sex is just playing with toys. Her content at MF is very similar to MC. I will have some previews of the past weeks content at MC soon in a post there.
I know this is my third comment on the thread and I apologize; I wanted to clarify just one thing, in a little more light hearted manner. I spoke of Vanessa above; just to be clear, when the time is right for her, I certainly want to see her naked, maybe even playing; I just don’t want to see her f?@king, lol.
Forums like this, by the way, should be a permanent part of the MC page.
Yes, I understood you very clearly.
Fine with me, $50 for a sub 2 min vid of b/g content is unsustainable for me anyway.. maybe I won’t go broke there after all
I have strayed away from any further discussion about MF for obvious reasons to you… but TM / MC if you want my opinion here it is :
Porn should stay on porn sites. Period. They do it better, and they will always do it better. There is A LOT to choose from.
Classic professional modeling / tease / softcore girl+girl modeling is where MC / TM has always shined brightly above the rest.
The grey area for me comes with solo/duo girls w/ toys, but most everyone seems to really enjoy those here, so whatever.
I know times are changing…but don’t forget what got you here. GROW and EXPAND on it, CONTINUE TO DO IT BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE. (cough, 4k)
In relation to MF :
You could just say “Oh, but it’s only these small group of creators here, not these other girls.” I’m sorry, but it’s all encompassing under the same Marvel brand at the end of the day. You’ve literally spoken to me before about how you got upset about someone calling you a porn site. Well if that kind of reputation makes you upset… then it boggles my mind why you even allowed “that” b/g video to be posted in the first place.
I understand MF is brand new and things are still being tweaked and adjusted, but If I am ever to be happy about my model joining in on MarvelFans in the future I want the rules to be carved into fucking stone.
I also agree with what MHS says :
“Anything that will happen in MF will affect the main website in the long run. Models like Lili, Kayley and Phoebe, and so on will not join a site that promotes porn.”
I 100% agree with this being the concern. So much great new talent has found their way onto these sites in the past without it.
It seems like you have already come to this conclusion, but this is how I feel. I hope it helps in some way.
Fully agree with admins last update.
It’s the best way forward for MF.
1) I’d be more concerned about Legalese: How does this affect the legal status of MF as A modelling site?
2) How will models react if that status was to change?
For browsing such content
3) Having girls post clearly (in destricption / Tags) wether they are No-nude, Lewd, Soft, Hard b/g would be more important. If I ask Alissa to DP herself, she would probably ban me (rightully so). But Anisa or Val would probably ask for Tips.
So I should have a Nice Tag ‘No-nude’, ‘Lewd'(?) and line in the description that tells me ‘Lewds but no Nudes’ or ‘Anything goes HC’ and make it clear in the ‘Terms and Conditions’ that asking for more is not endorsed.
4) As I posted above: Giving each creator their own shop page (unless I only see subscribed to creators there?), would ‘hide’ away any content from DM and Blog feeds and add a nice description and preview.
after adding funds to the wallet, how long does it take before it is available?
I got a confirm. Thanks, looking forward to looking around.
I’m more or less in the Tolerant camp, but ok with anything that is artfully produced and only if it is something the models desire to produce. That last bit is tricky for us older patrons. For many young women, they actively desire to create content that makes them an explicit sex object, the raunchier the better, or if not that then they are basically unbothered by a difference between soft and hard content. I know several personally. OnlyFans is not just populated by million-follower models, but also by many many many 10-15 follower models that do it for fun.
I thought I saw that part of the stated purpose of the MF site was to provide a subscription/PPV outlet for the models that was comparable to mainstream alternatives, so doesn’t then the chief concern become what content do the models WANT to make? Because if you prevent that, you are to a degree forcing them to make content here and also somewhere like OF, and that sort of defeats part of the purpose.
That said, there is nothing wrong with them having a softcore content portfolio here and a hardcore portfolio elsewhere, unless contracts prevent it, but I think we should be aware that might be what we are setting up by dictating limits and if the Marvel brand is desired to be synonymous with classy nudes then maybe it should be. But as soon as one model has an OF with hardcore that makes comparatively lucrative $$, other models will eventually hear about it and be tempted all the same.
Maybe an answer is a HC or B/G opt-in in our settings that otherwise hides or heavily obscures the HC content in a models channel.
I believe many underestimate our audience and fans when it comes to monetary support for models. A model faces an uphill battle leaving just to make harder content. Not only would it break the many years of guaranteed monetary support we have given over the years, but there are discovery challenges (how would one find the model elsewhere). They would also be on their own for promotion and any type of piracy.
There have been many examples of models going on their own thinking it’s going to get them more money. Recently there is a teen model who created an OF when she turned 18, but the support on her page is almost non-existent (1-2 likes per post). For context, MarvelFans has almost 3000 members in 3 weeks. A model isn’t going to get that audience or engagement by going somewhere where they won’t be advertised or cared for.
I should also restate that the models wanted us to make MF because they specifically did not like the other platforms. This was never about them wanting to make HC content. If you look at it that way, we have already fulfilled their wish. Why would they leave a platform that they currently like for another platform that they heavily disliked? The only reason would be monetarily, but they have been taken care of financially for many years now, and now they’re making more money than ever on the Marvel family of sites. If our decision making process keeps making them more money as it has, they are going to trust how we handle content going forward as well.
I had subscribed to Anitas page, but as soon as I saw a B/G preview I unsubbed, thats not something I want to see. And from what I see MF is just like OF, my inbox was full of messages to unlock content for tips, and model pages full of post that could only be unlocked with money. I was expecting some post like that, but thinking more of models posting previews of up coming sets, every day pics of them selves, etc. So I guess MF isn’t for me.
Joe, seriously I get your point but you should come back and support the other models that don’t do that kind of content for example Hanna’s models and Phoebe and Sabinka and that like.
I mean majority is not near HC and we should make clear to all models we prefer no HC by support them. I personally not against see Val and Becca teasing “lesbian soft”. I know they have worked together for years and they know each other. But boys or dicks no thanks I will not buy. But I STILL respect their decisions…. Its up to them in the end.
And since the rules has changed there is not reason unsub.
The question here is, is the Marvel network about showcasing beautiful young models or is it just bog standard porn site? If it’s about showcasing models, there is no room for any kind of porn on the network.
Me personally, I’m not happy with G/G content or dildos. Suggestive stuff is great & does it for me but I feel that G/G & masterbation is the thin end of the wedge & it’s not surprising that people, including some of the models think HC is perfectly acceptable on the Marvel platforms.
If fans want hardcore they can look elsewhere (which is what they do anyway).
The question that I ask myself is, would girls like Phoebe (who is one of the most popular girls on the network) have join a site, which included other models doing hardcore content? I don’t think so & that’s the worry for me. The reason why I like the Marvel network so much is the diversity of girls showcased. Let’s not spoil something that for me, works perfectly well.
A second thing… is there any chance of Tina starting a Marvelfans page? It’s OK if she doesn’t speak much English… she can do it in Spanish… we have Google translate!!
I’m in camp 3. If the girls are comfortable sucking dicks and having sex on camera, I’m fine with that. As much as I love seeing them using toys or g/g action, it’s also nice to see them in “real” action. Just my two cents.
I’m all for it being their choice. I saw a lot of comments about it not being long term and only a quick cash grab, but honestly these are young ladies that might want to move to there next stage in life. A quick and rewarding experience can go a long ways to making that next step easier, and having someone trustworthy to help them is commendable. That said I would hate it to affect future talent. I don’t mind more than tease, but it should be her choice, but a good payout to make their lives easier in the future is a good thing. I’m a big fan of custom videos just saying
Late to the party but I’ll chime in. I think IanW covered my opinion pretty well in his post. I could never hold it against a model to make HC content if they both wanted to and it made them income. That being said, after any of the B/G stuff it’s just going to “kill the magic” for that model to me. The tease really is what sets these girls apart for me. I know some are wilder than others…and that’s a good thing. But all in all TO ME it’s fantasy material.. it puts me there with them in my mind… even if they don’t show EVERYTHING I can imagine the rest…. but I can’t unsee another guys cock? lol Does that make any sense? It just shatters the fantasy back to reality. Now don’t get me wrong.. I do watch porn from time to time when I’m in the mood for it. But not why I come to see these girls in question. Both sites and all involved seemed classier to me. It is so complicated because I’m all at least partial nudity or some good clear sheer money shots… and it aggravates the shit out of me when some in the comments complain that THAT is too much …. so i feel a little hypocritical voicing my opinion…. but that is what Admin asked for and that is how I truly feel. Admin I do appreciate you being open about all this and listening… I honestly though I was “weird” for not wanting it to go that far but now at least I know I’m not alone lol. I really have subbed to a few OF which were awesome at the start.. shy girls figuring out how it all works… eager to please… loved the interaction and gave them a lot of support and the the next thing you know they are gargling some random guys baby gravy…. just can’t imagine kissing them after that haha. “Unsubscribe!!” Well again, to sum up this incoherent rambling, I am in the no B/G section…. now if you will excuse me…Lili is waiting on me! Jesus, if she ever did B/G it would break my God Damn heart!
I’m fine with direction of MF and very much appreciate Val’s hard core content on MF.
Anita’s photo content of both her and models (ie Rebecca & Marissa) is ridiculously good. And Oh yeah did I mention she appears to be bringing Rikki out of “retirement.” (Yikes and Wow)
The Hanna content is a mess though. Too many models and vague on what you’re even getting if you were to subscribe. I’d be much more likely to subscribe if it were just Hanna but I guess that’s not how the Hanna-World group rolls..
I like Marvel Charm for the models (ok, pretty much just Vanessa). No matter what level of content she puts out, I would follow. I will say that the softcore format is nice though because it allows for models that we otherwise would not be able to see for a while because of… reasons. I am really enjoying my membership to MarvelFans though because with previews from you all, as well as Jiri, I discovered new favorites like Destiny and Jessie.
I just want a nice mix of stuff you get through membership. To only have access to good content through paying extra sucks, if i sub to a model or photographer page, and they already get my money, I just want to feel like i am getting access to at least some of the premium stuff. Both Jiri and Destiny are giving some good stuff with membership and I do not regret joining at all. As long as this stays the same, I expect to be a member for a long time.
A lot of the comments are in favour of Girl on Girl action, perhaps it is not the models preference to be girl on girl. In some previous videos where there has been girl on girl action, it has looked uncomfortable for the models. If their preference to enjoy it more to have a boy in the action, that should be allowed, as long as the focus on the modelenjoying that moment.
Should the decision not remain with the model of what they want to content they want to post. As long as that content is behind the subscrption or locked, where it is not viewed with being part of that models viwership, that way a subscriber can leave if they do not wish to see that content.
I’m essentially in the tolerant camp. I primarily enjoy tease up to full nude. My HC tastes run towards gangbang or more, which I don’t expect to see here anyway. I’d probably be a little saddened to see Phoebe doing the type of HC I like.
But I certainly don’t mind the girls on this site doing HC.
Who or what is this anitas crew ive been reading about can someone fill me in. Thanks
Hi all, please head to PART 3 for our decision.
Hi everyone. I am starting a second page since the other is a little cluttered.
We would like some feedback on MF, specifically on certain directions to take it, and the rules we put in place for models and certain creators. I want to make things more clear, as well as get our fans feedback, as that is what’s the most important to me. Here are some things we are dealing with internally:
Harder Content – aka b/g, etc…:
Please read this post from a big fan first, and see if you agree (scroll to bottom of comments):
https://marvelcharm.com/product/mf-discussion/#comment-393849
There are lots of “likes” and comments on MF cheering on this style of content for certain models, but I know this is probably not the majority of fans. Many of you don’t want that, or feel that it would be disrespectful to disagree with a model on her page (which I agree with, I would rather have that discussion here). I want to be clear that it is not our intention to move in this direction, and the amount of short term money that would be earned by going this route is not going persuade me personally to allow more models to do harder content.
Before I continue, I should make this clear. We have given Anita’s crew of models (Val, Becca, Simona, etc) the ability to work how they want, when they want. We do not tell them how to perform, or how to model. This is very different to the new MC models like Phoebe, Sabinka, etc. Think of it as having two sides. On one side, you’ll have Anita’s crew, where they are free to make the content they want. On the other side of this border will be the Marvel side, where we have our own rules and limits for our models. All models on the Marvel side have strict guidelines that I manage. Two sides with two different leaders, therefore the content from each side will be different.
Back to the harder MF content… I Initially thought that no model was going to be uploading this kind of content. We know Valensia and them are very bold, but it was still a shocker to see it. We could have blocked it from the start and told them to not do this content, which was my original intention… But everyone is a grown adult at MF, so I wanted to let it play out for a few days and see how it went, and how the reaction would be.
Watching the reactions and stats, I think that there are 3 camps people are in when it comes to this.
1) The Purity Camp. You want strictly modeling. You oppose any type of content that is b/g, and maybe even toy related. I think there are many in this camp, but they are not outspoken.
2) The Tolerant Camp. You aren’t really opposed to this type of content, but would prefer models stick to modeling, with the occasionally toy / sexy g/g content. Most of you are probably in this camp.
3) The Anything Goes Camp. You love seeing this content from the models and have been waiting for this moment. Probably tied with Purity Camp for amount of users in it.
If you want to know where I stand, it is somewhere between 1 and 2. However, I am sure many of you know that the style of Valensia & crew are different than the other models here at this point. The question becomes: do we let the veterans manage their own ship and make content how they want, or do we put in our own rules for them as well?
You might have other concerns as well. Would other models be influenced to follow this path? Would MC be forced to follow in order to stay relevant? Or are the Marvel sites losing their niche in order to make the models happy? I will say that as long as I am in charge, the answer to all of those are “No”.
We know what works, and after doing this for many years, harder content does not beat “tease” content monetarily. It would be a mistake for most model careers to go that path, and why we’re against it most of the time. Phoebe is the most popular on MF for a reason. But I understand that while the veterans (Valensia & Crew) are still part of MC, we may have to allow them to be the more adventurous ones. I will be honest, I think their g/g content is top quality, A+ content.
What do you think is the right direction? What do you personally enjoy? Let us know your thoughts.
I apologize for the scrambled thoughts. But we care about your input. I believe the majority of MF fans enjoy the current content. MF is not going anywhere, in fact it is probably too big of a success. That’s why we would like to get this discussion in before things potentially get too far ahead. We want to know where the line in the sand is for you personally.
And most importantly, no matter what, support our models if you enjoy what they do. Never let our discussions change your outlook on a specific model. They are all here for you, and only want to make you happy!
Also, I understand there are other things feedback related for MF (pricing, video length, etc) but I want to focus on one thing at a time. And we, for the most part, already understand that 99% of users want those changed, so no discussion is really needed… whereas the “type” of content is a much more fluid situation and varies from person to person (therefore more discussion is necessary).
Personally, I come to Marvel for tease content, for professional artistic work. If I want hardcore, I go to pornhub. I also like content I can download.
I may throw a little money at MF, and I did subscribe to Kayley to help her out, because I can’t fathom what it is like to be driven from your home, and because I just freaking love her. And I do enjoy the photos, they have a bit of a personal touch, and it would be nice to see some Instagramish type stuff but maybe a little more revealing.
I like the MC and TM sites just the way they are. For me, I like the tease. Sheer, nip slips, full nudity is fine with tease elements, and I do like totally top less, Kayley has done it in a very classy way. I would like to eventually see models like Vanessa top less (pleeeassseee). But I also am cool with what models are comfortable with. And I’m rambling so I’ll cut it there.
I’m more in the tolerant camp, so I’d say let them do their thing. I don’t care to see that type of content, but I can easily just scroll past it. If their fans are happy, I see no problem with it.
I’m really only on MF for Phoebe, and I’m happy with how she’s running her page. She’s having a lot of fun, and works hard to keep her fans happy, always putting in the extra effort. I was actually surprised she went along with all of my custom requests, even the silly (but still hot) one. 😉
It’s a difficult one, on one side it rarely sits well with me to have people in the same space but having different rules. But they’re adults & if they’re comfortable it should be up to the likes of Valensia to post that stuff. (& I would say much better with your team regulating things than going elsewhere. So that no-one ends up being pressured into posting content they may be less comfortable with). I think my suggesting is allow it on the models side, but ban us on the customer side asking for anything concerning it.
this is a subscription site where you have to subscribe to the models you want to view. If the models want to share content, then let them I say. If people don’t want to see that, they do not have to subscribe and can focus on MC site. Again if it’s up to the models, they will regulate and share what they are comfortable with and we all get to choose if we subscribe and pay for that content. Of course this is just my opinion.
Im for letting the models do what they want i like the harder content. But its worthless to me if i cant download it. I would gladly pay anisa 50 bucks if i can download it and watch at my convenience on my tv instead of my little laptop.