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Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Hi everyone. This will be a long post, but please read.

MarvelFans is a project I have contemplated for a long time. Since we’re known as a website for professional studio work, multiple challenges came to mind when considering to build the platform. However, it was one final event that has happened recently that finally made us pull the trigger.

Over the years, we have faced many challenges in the modeling industry. The obvious one most of you will think of is the presence of “Fans” sites. These are essentially platforms for creators and models to branch out and create their own pages to earn income. This has destroyed many studios. However, many times it is the result of models not being paid well by studios, and going off to create their own creator page to earn income. We have not had these issues at Marvel websites for the most part, mainly because we pay our models and photographers more than any others in our niche market. However, even though we do our best to give our models quality work and pay, some want a more intimate experience with fans. Let’s be honest with ourselves, all models have heard about sites like OnlyFans and others, it has come to a point where these websites are a part of culture now. Simply put, it cannot be ignored.

That leads to our position. You might think: Why would we start a similar project, or even try to create your own version of these websites? The answer to this is simple: Many of our models want it. However, because of the lack of security at other sites, the stigma of some of the content of other creators, the lack of any of ability to be “found”, or simply because of contract reasons; there was no solution given to them. Thinking from the models perspective, this is very understandable. Why try to build a “fans” site separate from TM and MC, when most of your audience came from us (or even farther back for some)? Putting two and two together, it only makes sense to integrate a fan platform into our family of websites, solving almost all of the problems they have.

In addition (and circling back to my previous point of what finally made us pull the trigger), there is simply too much conflict in many areas of the world. The war in Ukraine was the final straw. If our models get displaced or have to leave home because of a senseless conflict, what will they do if we can’t get a professional photographer to them? Outside of conflict, what if they go on vacation for a month? Or are too busy with school to get a proper shooting in? Maybe they have a child? They will have no way to earn income, and for me, this is unacceptable. If I am not doing everything in my power to create an environment where the models can earn income, then I have failed at this business.

Now that I have given a few reasons for launching MarvelFans, let me be clear as to what is NOT happening.

We are not changing anything about how TM and MC shoot models. Everything here will remain the same. We will still shoot models just as often, and we will still update our websites just as often. I know many have this thought in the back of their minds, so we want to make this as clear as we can. Our models are also NOT going to be putting out content on MF that is hardcore. Our goal is to support models as much as we can, but even we have boundaries.

To focus more on the website, the following models/creators will be on the website at launch:
Kayley, Alissa, Petra, Charlotta, Phoebe, Sabinka, Daniela, Sheila, Simona, Anita (photographer), J (photographer), Hanna & Co.

Models who are pending to be on MarvelFans:
Lili, Madison, Rebecca, Alice, Bety, Anisa, Leidy + Daniela

More will come over time, so if you don’t see the model you want yet, please be patient.
The website will have many of the features you want to see in a platform like this. Private messaging, tips, ask models for certain requests or fetishes you have., etc. Any money you spend on MF goes straight to the model. Our cut is only for upkeep.

Some final questions I will try to answer that some may have…
Q: This is expensive, I do not have the money for this. Sounds like greed to me!
A: Any expansion effort will make things a little more expensive. And many of our fans voluntarily want to support the models further. Our models at MF can charge whatever they want. They also have the option to make subscriptions to their page free. But we will do our best to make sure they are not charging an arm and a leg for their page.

Q: Where are the six updates per week you promised? You should have done this instead.
A: This is something for us to work on. Not everyone is an editor here or has time to make this a consistent schedule. However, if you want to be a part-time editor for us, let us know and we will give you plenty of work to do. Yes, seriously.

Q: Is MarvelFans an open platform for creators? Can anybody join and earn?
A: No. MarvelFans is for our current models only. We do not allow anybody else to become a creator or upload on the platform.

Q: Can my favourite model from *insert site here* join?
A: We are open to accepting models who are popular in our niche or have been a popular NN model for many years. Many of you know what this list consists of, I do not need to mention specific names. We will welcome them with open arms.

Q: What is the payment process like?
A: You will create an account on MF. After that, there will be a Wallet page which will show your points. 1 point = 1 USD. You will be able to get more points by going to your wallet page and adding funds. You’ll be redirected to a purchase page on TM (similar to how Heidy’s website works), and you’ll be able to purchase points there. Once we verify your payment, we manually add the funds to your account on MF, which you can then choose to spend however you like.

Sorry this was so long. I am open to answer any questions. I am sure many are excited to see where this goes. We will do our best to serve our fans, photographers, and models!

Thanks for reading.

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Mario
1 year 11 months ago

i dropped you guys a message into the contact form.
I’m not sure i’m a fit, but you miss every shot you dont take, right? haha

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Dave
1 year 11 months ago

Awesome! Will be joining Alissa on day 1 😉

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TC
1 year 11 months ago

Yes, all I can say is Alissa, Alissa, Alissa

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Paul
1 year 10 months ago

Huge respect and love to Alissa!!

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TVB
1 year 11 months ago

I fully agree on being able to support the model further. I think this helps you all keep models from straying away to the obvious fan sites out there. The added benefits are even more tempting (private chats, live streams, and customs????)

The only fear I have, and I’m sure others will share is the things that happen on the other sites. A monthly sub to the fan page, then a pretty high paywall price after the monthly sub price for 1 photo, a 5 second vid, etc. Though there are people that will gladly pay money, it ultimately turns down a lot of folks from such an idea.

It’s just my thought/concern. I have been supportive and purchased many sets from you all, I will be most definitely be joining as soon and Alice gets her page started. I am very much looking forward to how the page turns out.

And when you say may 2022, does that mean it’s already open?

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Hi, I agree with you. I have explained our position below with my reply to dapanz.

Ultimately we had to make a decision. The easy decision would be to deny our talents what they want… basically like closing your eyes and acting like nothing is wrong. Or we can open our eyes to the world how it is, accept it, and begin to actually solve the issues and try to make all parties happy.

And an FYI to all, the prices you see in the trailer video are NOT the final prices, they will be lower for some at launch.

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JB
1 year 11 months ago

This is an incredible new direction, and a wonderful insight to how Marvel views their work and obligations to the talented models. This dedication to quality and the talent’s well-being, as well as us fans is why you guys are still here, and why I have been a patron so long and look forward to the many great years to come. Super excited, keep up the great work, and big thanks to the whole Marvel family

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dapanz
1 year 11 months ago

I’ve conflicting feelings about this project. My main concern is related to the fact that I really dislike the OF platform. I agree it was somehow helpful to the models, but it was a huge blow to my idea of quality (I hate vertical videos and amateur like products) and good taste (I don’t like to see HC stuff from my favourite models here).
I’m happy that you set boundaries and will control the look and feel of the platform so that you can create a closed environment where this project could develop according to “our” tastes.
I’m glad to see that some of my favourite models will be present from the beginning (Kayley, Alissa, Phoebe and Sabinka) and together with your supervision I hope that MarvelFans will prove me wrong about this kind of platform.
Add to this that we will have the opportunity to support directly our favourite models and so count me on board!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Hi, great points, and I agree with them all. While we’re not 100% certain on what we’ll do to give you the best value when you subscribe to a model (there is only so much we can do), we do have some ideas that might help.
Because it is a closed ecosystem, we can give our models content to post on their page other than just vertical videos / selfies. Photos from an upcoming set, or clips from an upcoming video can be posted on their page to help keep interest, similar to how tributes work.

Setting the boundaries are important. We do not want the “magic” of the sets on our sites to dissipate because a model posted something way too sexy on their page. What a model shows on MF should not be ahead of what’s being shown on TM and MC currently (i.e. an NN model can’t go nude on MF while still being NN on the other sites). Of course there will be a fan or two who will try to change this by throwing a lot of money at a model. We’ll be flexible, but only up to a certain point. We still want to give models freedom on what they want to do.

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Snowman
1 year 11 months ago

Hi Marvel team, Love the idea and look forward to being a part of Marvelfans.
However i do have a couple questions.

First, in the video it says starting may 2022, will there be an update on Marvelcharm and Teenmarvel main page when it goes live?

Second, What happens with the language barrier? I speak mainly english and Very little ukrainian, but i’m guessing most models can’t speak english or very little of it. Not to forget all the other languages. So will the site translate for our region or will we need a 3rd party translator?

Lastly is just an idea, but do an update to the models page/tab to include there Marvelfans link. Be an easy way to find our favourite models.

I think that’s all for now :)

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Hi, yes we’ll give an update on both websites when it launches.

About language barriers, you can simply speak english to any model you want. Most can understand it, and the ones that cannot have translators on the computer / phone.
We will definitely look at ways to integrate things onto the main page of the websites. :)

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TJ
1 year 11 months ago

Sounds intriguing. Can’t wait to sign up and throw my money at Phoebe! 😉
Also good to know things won’t be changing here.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

You know she is ready for you. :)

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Wattem
1 year 11 months ago

It sounds intriguing. Have any models flat out said they wouldn’t be doing it? Just don’t want to be waiting on a model who definitely won’t be joining!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

So far, nearly every model we’ve asked has said they are interested. The only issue so far has been privacy concerns. Models want to feel safe with us, and that is our top priority.
Some models will not be on the platform simply because they are not currently active. If they ever come back to shoot though, we will make sure to pitch the website to them.

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M
1 year 11 months ago

I think this is a great idea since I have trusted this site for years. Also happy that HF finally may enter MF. I especially like Hanna and Delia.

I also hope … can enter MC family, yeah you know who, I am just repeating if I say it again but I still hope 😉

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Blaatschaap
1 year 11 months ago

This is brilliant news and I am looking forward to the launch of MarvelFans very much!

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Eric
1 year 11 months ago

If/When Vanessa joins I will be the first to sub. Cool business model and it is always good to see models get a cut of the proceeds in a transparent way. It can be a system where everyone wins.

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TJ
1 year 11 months ago

Can I vote up multiple times for Vanessa?

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Dave
1 year 11 months ago

Also, just asking, if you belonged to a model’s page would/could there be a slight discount on sets? Like 10-20% off or something? Figured it can’t hurt to bring it up!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Not a bad idea.

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HiveOne
1 year 11 months ago

I really like the idea and looking forward to it ^^

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G-Man
1 year 11 months ago

I like this idea…. My only concern would be the price of the content. Sites like OF have you pay to follow someone (most of the time), then half of their content is PPV stuff in private messages, which is exactly why I don’t use that site. Paying to follow a model I like is something I have no issues with. It’s the chance of doing that and then having to pay to see any posts afterwards that worries me. I’ll definitely be following some models from the start and see how it goes, though

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DestinyLover
1 year 11 months ago

It seems interesting. I feel that there will be a bit of tweaking during the course of the project, pricing variations, etc… I like the comment about having a discount for particular sets if you support a specific model(s).

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J photographer
1 year 11 months ago

I can say, that girls, are really looking forward on you. Trust me, or not, most of them still don’t belive, that you like them so much. :)

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

They are excited. 😀 It’s true.

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

Will Mr J your name is already in the video 😛 . As you already apart of it. I actually subscribe one time to your OF and even patreon to see what kind of content. I wanted to say hi and that i am from Marvel but i was scared to scare you off lol

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G-Man
1 year 11 months ago

They’re about to find out how many fans they have and how much we like them

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

@ J the Photographer can you name at least one model who the most still don’t believe we like so much? :) maybe we could surprise her 😉

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photographer
1 year 11 months ago

well, all of them… 😀

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Bill
1 year 11 months ago

I was really hoping this surprise was a new model, but this has the potential to be even better.

I like the idea of private messaging your favorite models and getting custom content that no one else will get is also a definite plus for me. I will sign up for a handful of my favorite models on Day 1 to see how the site works.

I do have similar concerns to others though. Quality is important to me. OF is trash. You get garbage videos or a handful of selfies for extra money on top of monthly subscriptions. And they don’t even give previews before you buy. I learned quickly that OF was not a site for me. If this new site truly mimics OF, then it may not be the place for me either (I may be in the minority though since OF seems to be successful).

Either way, I am glad to see you guys are continually improving things to keep the models happy. Happy models = working models, so hopefully this move will keep all our favorites active and loading new professional content on TM and MC, where I will forever remain a loyal customer.

P.S. How can you have MarvelFans without the Queen? Please keep working to get Lili on-board, as she is prob the only one I will continue to follow even if I don’t like the new site.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Working with Lili… 😉

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

Plus alot of OF models scamming and misleading with their PPV content. My first topless pic . When you buy it handbra or her nipples are covered. Thats why OF started refunding those who fell for it. Of course i know Marvel models are not going to do that. However this one many reasons why fans are getting way from OF.

Funny is most who successfully in OF who have highest followers in Instagram and Tiktok. Those models who are most that scams. Stay away from them if you can.

For me Porn Webcam and now OF are the cancer of Adult industry.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

I see some are wondering about pricing / subscriptions. I’ll try and answer this as best I can.

There are multiple ways for a model to set up their page.
-Completely free to subscribe, with all content free on their page
-Subscription only where you must subscribe to view content.
-Mix of both. You will be able to view their page, where certain posts will be free, and certain posts will either be subscription or a pay to unlock.

I have not given models any suggestions on how to do this yet, so they are all doing it how they want. I will be making sure that their prices are in line with a regular TM / MC set at launch, so if you saw anything in the trailer that was $30 or something, it will not be that price at launch.

I understand some don’t want “pay to view” / “pay to unlock” on certain posts or in their PMs. I cannot fix this completely, as it’s the models choice for this. However, I am thinking of creating a general MARVEL page that all can follow, where (if we get permission from the model) we can give out previews of some of their pay to unlock content. This obviously would not include things from private messages, just unlock content that you would see on their pages or from a mass message they send. We could also include previews of them here on TM and MC if that is an option as well.

Let me know how that sounds.

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Steve P
1 year 11 months ago

Overall this sounds incredible. I do hope some models that tease in certain fetishes already are actually into them and I’ll be able to watch my fantasies unfold finally lol. I guess the only question I have is whether or not the content will be downloadable. I have subscribed to models on OnlyFans and Fansly and neither of those have straight downloads like zip files or anything. I know this usually is because of extra work that now has to go into security because of piracy so it’s understandable if it will be the same here. Watermarking and other hidden features has saved the industry a lot but it is always tough.

Anyways, good luck to all with this new venture! I’m excited to see what awaits us, this may pull my focus back from other fan sites. The more love we can show our favorite girls the better!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

There is an option for models to upload zip files. The problem is just creating zip files these days is so archaic… especially when a model can just select a few pictures from their phone seamlessly. You will still be able to download the content, though.

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Dee
1 year 11 months ago

Wow! I never comment but had to for this epic news!!! I’ve been a huge fan of both marvelcharm and Teenmarvel for years, this has me so excited, I’m confident that you’ll manage this well, I can see a future we’re you guys are really going to get huge and all the hottest of the hottest models want to be on your site. I have one important question will Tina be joining???? thanks again can’t wait!!!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Thanks. It is good to hear from fans who never comment. :)
Nothing on Tina yet. I’m hoping for good news.

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tre
1 year 11 months ago

I like this, and I hope Alice does join in, pretty sure I’ve given enough incentive. 😀

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Rockhopper
1 year 11 months ago

I will sign up for Phoebe immediately. And if Sabinka has a page I will go broke. I will throw whatever I can at Sabinka if she gets a page. She is my one true goddess. Also as for editor you say you need help with. I’m free 24/7. But I don’t know what the job entails or qualifications. Anyways looking forward to the new site and just hope it doesn’t get too expensive.

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Terrence
1 year 11 months ago

Any news on if Vanessa will be joining one day?

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Christopher
1 year 11 months ago

This is very exciting news! So glad to see your best model is participating from day one (you know the one)! It’s great that these models can feel safe with MC, and I trust you’ll manage this well. You guys continue to prove why you’re the best by innovating and striving to please your models and fans alike! There are definitely some valid concerns raised with this type of popular format, as nobody likes to feel “cheated” out of their hard earned money, but being able to more directly communicate and support our favorite models outside of just tributes, with the backing of MC, I feel is too good of an idea to pass up. By the way J, at least some of these models must know by now how much we like them from all the tributes they’ve received, but now maybe they will be able to see more first hand!

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Mr.Neph
1 year 11 months ago

Neat. im looking forward to well everything been a big fan of everyones work here and been behind (loved every minute of it) quite a few models. i cant wait to see what might come next. cheers to this. and kudos to you guys for keeping them safe in any way you can. love you all.. and too the ladys be sure to smile today. nothn is better then that <3

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Joe
1 year 11 months ago

As soon as I saw the video and saw the site designed just like OF my heart dropped. I hate OF and sites like it. I joined a TM girls OF a couple years ago and seeing how greedy she was made me dislike her, and I never purchased any of her sets again. Hopefully I’m wrong and you guys are able to make this work and be better than OF, and not have a huge paywall to unlock posts and sets that aren’t worth anything.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Many models are not business savvy, and will charge ridiculous prices for content they put little effort into. If we see a model doing the bare minimum and charging a ridiculous price, it will be addressed. Besides, it will be the model with the most reasonable pricing and good content that will come out on top. A model who tries to charge more isn’t going to get much support.

In the big picture of things, this “shift” reminds me of the outcry of many sites moving from subscription to Pay per set. It’s something that is hard to do as an owner and as a customer, but there are also upsides. PPS allowed users to support models who they liked the most and only focus on them. At the same time for owners, it stopped a lot of site ripping theft, and made them focus on the models who are most popular. Fan sites solve an issue for the model (more ways to get income) and also gives fans the most intimate experience. The downside is that a model can charge an arm and a leg, vs. a website where you generally know what something will cost and won’t be blindsided by garbage phone pics that cost $50. Many against it might call it the most extreme form of capitalism… I don’t know. But while OF and other fan sites have a mostly hands off approach (which leads to many issues like chargebacks), we will monitor what our models do and charge for their content.

This gift of giving models more control is meant to be used as an opportunity. It is not meant to be used to abuse.
Those who abuse their power should no longer hold it.

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Corvin
1 year 10 months ago

I Feel your pain. Joined all the models Free subscription pages. Pricing is reasonable for juicy extra content. I will avoid any (Pay on demand and) Pay Walled content however. Not how I roll.

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Blaatschaap
1 year 11 months ago

When this was first announced, besides a tremendous amount of excitement, I had many of the same concerns which have been voiced here. The more I think about it (and read Admin’s replies) the less of a concern they really are to me.

My main one was quality of the content. It’s TM and MC professionally produced pictures and videos which I like so much, selfies and vertical videos just don’t appeal to me. Still, it took me two days to realize what admin wrote already in the first comment, TM and MC aren’t going anywhere. We’re still getting all the wonderfulness they provide us with at the same rate we have been, who knows maybe even faster if they find some editor(s)! Admin, I’ve become an expert at resizing and cropping pictures to make them into wallpapers, does that count to qualify?
Anything on MF will basically be “extra”. Like me, I think others have based their expectation of MF’s quality and cost on what OF and similar platforms offer. It’s logical I guess, since we’ve only seen a visual impression of MF. And it LOOKS exactly like OF. What we haven’t seen however is where I believe MF will make sites like OF seem even worse than they already are. MF will be something else because of the support TM and MC give to their models and the openness to feedback from the fans. Just look at how impressively above and beyond TM and MC have approached the situation following the outbreak of war in Ukraine. That’s dedication and that’s what I believe will make MF a success.

My only worry (if you could call it that) is the TM and MC team might overwhelm themselves with this project.
At the very least though, MF will allow me to express directly to some of my favorite models how incredibly amazing I think they are.
But I’m confident it will be SO much more! Can’t wait until launch day!

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TJ
1 year 11 months ago

Very well said, and exactly how my thought process went while reading through everything here. The Marvel team will be the difference makers here in separating themselves from OnlyFans and other sites. They’re dedicated to not only their models and photographers, but also to their fans.

The other sites have too many creators to be able to focus much on users, and quality of product suffers because of their “hands-off” approach and the sheer scale of those platforms. With a smaller scale, and Marvel’s oversight, the user experience likely won’t suffer in the way it does on those other sites.

At the end of the day, at least we’ll have a chance to communicate directly with our favorite models. :)

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Corvin
1 year 10 months ago

OF & Friends primary concern is that you spent time (Data harvest) and money on the plattform. Not wether any models have a sustained bussiness or healthy work life balance. Marvel does.

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Will
1 year 11 months ago

I like the idea but I was wondering if the models are getting any protection/support from private messaging. It is possible that one person sends thousands and thousands of (disgusting) messages to one model a day. I was thinking if any kind of monitoring will be in place to protect the models…

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Yes, there are multiple measures of protection.
-A model can block a user from accessing them.
-We have the ability to monitor a customers actions and conversations if necesary
-TM and MC rules still apply, we can ban you from purchasing our content (including content on MF) if you abuse your privileges.

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

I know that webmaster can do and read everything. As I know TM/MC i feel bit weird/shy they can read mine 😛

https://giphy.com/gifs/shy-eJT738HFSQDVS

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Troy
1 year 11 months ago

Despite assurances, I feel this will take time and attention away from MC, TM, LM, HP, and those sites could end up seeing less updates, less focus, and ultimately suffer. I guess only time will tell.

I’ve tried onlyfans and I’ve never been happy with the style or content. That’s why my money goes to your sites. I’m already at my budget for this type of entertainment so I’ll have to choose where I spend it, so I am likely going to have to stop supporting some models on existing sites or just skip MF altogether.

Sorry, just being honest here. I’ll try to have an open mind and check out a few of my favorite models on the new site. I hope it doesn’t detract from current content.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

We understand that many will skip spending on MF. It is an add-on, not a major project. As an aside, MC and HP were enormous projects that took a lot of time and effort to get done. Comparatively, this is nothing, and we are not using up a majority of our resources or time to get this off the ground. The first thing we analyze when starting a new project is the chance of it detracting from the current flow of content. With every new site we’ve launched, we have not lowered or taken away the amount of updates / time from other sites. It will continue this way.

I think for many, fan sites are about a new form of communication more than anything, not necessarily the content. Naturally, this is going to make the platform less popular, since many people don’t care enough to interact with the models.

In fact, I will go as far to say that if you are not interested in interacting or chatting with a model, you should probably not spend any money at MF.

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Troy
1 year 11 months ago

Thanks for the reply. One thing I can say is I have always been impressed with the quality of content, models, professionalism, and support here. As far as interacting with the models, that’s probably not of interest to me, but we’ll see. I just hope people are respectful to them.

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

Yeah, another thing that should be avoided is subscription over another subscription!!. Some models when you subscribe to her monthly subscription let’s say it’s $10 then you get a message from your PM saying if you want more sexy stuff subscribe to my monthly VIP ( VIP exclusive) which costs around $100. FYI those videos are not free also.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

I’ve never seen this before. I don’t even think our platform can do that. The only thing I’ve seen is locked content that you have to pay for even if you are a subscriber, which we have. But I’ve never heard of a subscription within a subscription… we wouldn’t allow that.

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

subscription through tips. We need to tip to be part of the VIP list

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Okay, I get it now.

This is mainly because there are tons of OF siterip websites around these days, and it’s very easy to get almost all content from a model if they have everything just through their standard subscription. Creating another subscription for VIPs basically tells me that the model knows their basic content is going to get stolen, and are relying much more on their VIPs to keep the money coming in. I think it is less about greed, and more of a circumstantial issue… if the theft didn’t exist, it wouldn’t happen (or it would happen far less).

I don’t think we’ll have this issue, as everyone here knows our security is already very high. There will be content that you pay to unlock (whether you’re a subscriber or not), but we wouldn’t allow subscription tiers through tips.

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

Before I say what about to say next, I know your models will not gonna do something like this. Just going to say what happening these days in OF which makes us wanna leave it behind.

MC, the way you think is scaring me lol. Either you are a very kind person or you blame a lot of Adult industry fans for what’s going on. Maybe I didn’t explain it well I will give you a real price not from my head and you judge. A subscription cost $30 the subscription are only previews you want to see the full videos, which are available in PM PPV these videos cost around $30 to $50 depending on the content. If you want to see even more hotter and sexy stuff you need to be on the VIP list which you need to tip $200. Videos that are on the VIP are PPV. FYI neither of the subscriptions has any nudity on them. Greed or not!?

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

High price does the following:
-It filters out the who are their biggest payers and can focus on them.
-It stops piracy by making any type of theft unattractive (a thief won’t make their money back by re-sharing, therefore they won’t bother).

There are other things too, but those are probably the main ones. I did not say there was no greed, but I believe the concern for the model is more about who will see the content… not the price itself. By creating so many barriers and paywalls, they know only their biggest fans will jump through so many hoops to get to this content. This is not my philosophy… I believe everyone should be able to have access to the same content. I don’t want to blame anybody or any industry for what’s going on, I am simply looking at the situation for what it is. There is enough blame to go around, nobody is innocent. 😀 I would rather not focus on blame, and try to solve issues.

Side note, they are using the tip system as a replacement for subscription tiers. If onlyfans had a subscription tier system (bronze, silver, gold), they would probably just use that. But if tipping is the only way to create a tier system on their platform, then that is what they’ll use.

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MHS
1 year 11 months ago

Yeah understand and I get what you’re saying

“I would rather not focus on blame, and try to solve issues.”

That’s what I am here for 😛 . What are you doing right now is combing the thing I love the most with a thing I hate the most. My job is to make sure to absorb out the worse parts of OF as much as possible :)

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The Doktor
1 year 11 months ago

When is Marvelfans going live?

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TC
1 year 11 months ago

Yes, when and how will we know it is live?

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Hivee
1 year 10 months ago

just to say… it is live!

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Joe
1 year 10 months ago

And I think I see what I feared. Subscribe to a model for $15, pay $20 to unlock a couple of pictures and maybe a video. No thanks.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 10 months ago

I can’t make the girls put prices much cheaper. But the content should eventually be worth some money over time as content builds up. You naturally get the short end of the stick for being an early adopter.
Though if you just don’t like the concept of these sites in general, no matter the price, I can’t help that. Half of our audience will not participate, and we are okay with this as long as the ones who do participate are happy.

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Blaatschaap
1 year 11 months ago

Something I thought of which perhaps is worth mentioning here. There are models who have accounts on several “fans” sites and post the exact same content on all of them. I’ve also seen models being requested by their fans to open pages on certain platforms. It makes sense in both ways I guess, the model reaches a wider audience with relatively little extra effort and the fans have most (or all) of their favorites on the platform they prefer to use.
What if a MF model is asked by fans to open a duplicate page on other platforms. Would it even matter?

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 11 months ago

Many models have exclusivity contracts (Rebecca, Phoebe, etc), therefore they won’t be able to open fan pages elsewhere. That is part of the reason we are doing this, to help fill a space we were not active in.
While having a favorite platform to use is good in most cases, I don’t believe other platforms care enough to enforce security of a models content, making things easy to share.

Also, in most cases where a model has multiple platforms, it’s usually because they are unable to rely on a single one due to rules or uncertainty. A fan site might change their rules entirely (like OF almost banning adult content last year), or simply add new draconian measures that make it impossible to earn there. You have no input, so you can’t put your faith in that platform. Our models will have direct contact with us, since it’s a closed platform. We all understand and help each other, so nobody is left behind. This is impossible to do at a larger scale where you accept all models and content.

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Ben
1 year 10 months ago

I think this could be amazing. The only thing I feel a little weird is because you are kind of playing big brother and I know the control you have over it and mc/tm sites, Are you going to read or answer for them? I mean maybe someone wants to write something private to a model like a request for example ,
I feel that in any given day the admin can read through everything and the “magic” of talking to the model directly goes away. I know for sure that it happens on only fans . Models have managers who answer their dm’s. I hope it won’t be the case here because the excitement that you will really talk with the model of your dreams is part of the whole point.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 10 months ago

Reading and answering for a model wouldn’t be something I would do. Answering would be a 100% no, our models would not like us doing this, because they want it to be a private conversation just as much as the fan does. Reading would only be necessary if a rule wasn’t being followed, or a model felt unsafe when chatting with the user.

I think users who have chatted already with our models know that they are talking to the real model, they can vet the system for those who are curious. And it’s not even worth the risk for us to impersonate, because if it was found out, the fallout for us would be bad. Though I still want to stress that this isn’t an “anything goes” platform like OF… we do make sure our models are doing the right things, having fun, etc. As we will often say: this platform is a privilege, not a right. Treat it like a privilege. We don’t need MF to survive, but if we can make both fans and models happy with it, then we are going to try and make it work.

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Ben
1 year 10 months ago

Thank for the reply:)

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TJ
1 year 10 months ago

I can say that I’m about 99.99% certain that it’s really Phoebe responding. I’m usually pretty good at discerning whether it’s the model responding or a manager, and she’s already basically (if accidentally) proven to me that it’s really her. She seems legit, and she’s extremely sweet. 😉

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John
1 year 10 months ago

I edit videos for my yt channel, if u need me!!

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Roberto
1 year 10 months ago

Can you at least make it so previews aren’t blurred or blank so we know what we are buying? The worst part of OF is that everything is a guess for unlocking content. Ultimately, you get burned enough where you never unlock anything again. Without that, I’m not sure you’ll get my money, when it’s there for the taking.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 10 months ago

I’ll be honest (and also not try to make a cop out answer), this is tough. Technically we could do this, but the model certainly wouldn’t like us doing that, because it takes away from the “private” experience. The original version of this site actually had completely blank previews for all private content, it was only recently added to create a blur so there is something to see, even if it isn’t much. I think there are a few alternatives I would rather do…

Models can create 2 separate posts if they want to show more from the unlocked content. One obviously being private, and the other showing a free preview for fans that everyone can see. The problem with this is most models won’t do it this way, even though it would probably get them more sales. We’ll try to encourage it.
We have another alternative: Our current plan is to post previews of certain content either on our free MF page, or here at TM/MC. This way you guys will be able to see at least a few things before you decide to buy something. But in the end, it will be difficult for us to satisfy what you guys want and what the model wants. We will all have to meet in the middle somewhere for what is acceptable and what isn’t.

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Corvin
1 year 10 months ago

I like the idea of free 1-2 (low quality?) preview pics on the blog post with the pay content. Most plattforms that sell content via DM already use this (The DM having a preview pic attached and then the unlock).
Alternative: The models make a seperate blog post with 1-2 preview pics from larger sets (40+ pics).
Suggestion: Make comments on unlock content viewable? We are doing that on Marvelcharm basically?

I do not mind to buy a loot crate on a free subscription page now and then but black boxes behind a paywall is snap anger issues waiting to happen and ill feelings by both sides => TOXIC.
What I really wish you had was a download button. I don’t care if you watermark or hashtag the content with my ID as long as I can put a save copy somewhere outside the cloud.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 10 months ago

I think over time we’ll iron out a lot of these issues. Funny enough, MF already has a SHOP page that models can take advantage of, which gives you the ability to upload a cover photo that previews what’s inside. So far nobody has taken advantage of it yet, they’re all new to the platform so let’s give them time to find what works and what doesn’t.

Download button is something we can already do. Models can upload ZIP files that you can download. It might be hard for us to do this for all content on the site, and I’m not sure the amount of server processing it would take to have us constantly compressing and zipping content.

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Gui
1 year 10 months ago

Do you guys plan on automating the wallet system?

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SomeGuy
1 year 10 months ago

Where can I watch the trailer video for marvel fans?

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Ben
1 year 10 months ago

Will Cutie be joining the site???

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 10 months ago

Maybe.

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G-Man
1 year 10 months ago

Well, it seems like this page is exactly what I was worried about. Most models have a price to follow, then a bunch of pay to view content. Maybe I’m alone, but I don’t want to pay to follow, then pay to view.

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MarvelFan
1 year 10 months ago

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, this statement seems to have quickly fallen out of the consciousness of Marvel admin:

“Our models are also NOT going to be putting out content on MF that is hardcore. Our goal is to support models as much as we can, but even we have boundaries.”

This isn’t a complaint per se. I’m NO prude and I frequently enjoy b/g porn. I come to Marvel sites for something different, though. While I’m admittedly titillated by the subject matter being posted recently, I vacillate between the rush of adrenalin that comes with these “advancements” and a hesitancy to indulge, based in part on the overwhelming feeling that Marvel sites are losing focus on their “niche” and succumbing to the will of the most base urges of a very vocal group of patrons.

For years I’ve heard cries of ‘I wish that Lily (Rebecca, Alice, Sarah, etc) would move into more (explicit and/or) hardcore territory.’ And TM/MC have repeatedly said they will never have b/g or hardcore on their sites. I truly believe and appreciate that there is no pressure on the models to move in this direction (aside from the comments of fans).

If a model chooses to move in this direction, generally speaking, I’m fine with that. They are sexual beings. Of course, I can choose to not view/purchase content just as I choose to. I won’t stop following/supporting a model who produces hardcore content; however, I’m hesitant to endorse it. If this type of content is lucrative, and a vocal majority supports it, I fear more models will feel pressure (internally) to “compete” and the other Marvel sites could suffer because they aren’t providing the same level of explicit content without also crossing over.

There is also the potential that you could lose fans that don’t want to see their favorite models going in this direction.

I may come around in time. I kind of expected this type of content from some of the models, but some recent previews have been both more thrilling than I had anticipated, and shocking in ways I wasn’t necessarily hoping for.

Again, I’m not opposed to seeing hardcore b/g porn, I just feel like I can find that anywhere else, with models that aren’t nearly as “special.” I get why some are excited to see their favorite models taking this leap. Personally, I’ve watched a lot of these women grow up, and sexual exploration is a part of life, but it feels like things are spiraling into less classy territory than what I expect from the Marvel brand.

I may be alone in my thoughts, but being a supporter for as long as I have, I’m certain others are having similar concerns. Clearly there are others who disagree, but I wanted to have a say. I’m not leaving the Marvel family and I’m sure you won’t be surprised if I succumb to the urge to participate, but let’s just say I’m not feeling totally on board with the way things seem to be going at this point in time. This crossing of “boundaries.”

Let me be clear, I am not trying to slut shame anyone. I am posting my comments here to avoid potentially hurting any of the models feelings. That is not my intention. I don’t think anyone wants to post comments like this in a models’ feed, so you may only hear the praise and not the counterpoints.

All that said, I love the “Elf Masturbation” video. While brief, it was well worth the asking price. Feels like a tribute with a little bit extra, and I’m fine with content like it. More of both that quality and level of explicitness would be not only acceptable but equally appreciated. Dildos, vibrators, plugs, etc. do not feel like they are outside of what I expect from MC/TM. Some girl/girl heavy petting is fine. Just not really coming here to see my favorite models with other guys. I want to imagine them with only me, and these recent posts kind of ruin that illusion.

Overall, I’m happy with MarvelFans, and feel it’s another great success for all involved. I only wish I could afford to indulge more and provide more support to the models, but such is life. I really appreciate knowing how long a video is before purchasing, and Marvel Admin’s censored previews are helpful in deciding if something is worth the asking price. More previews would be appreciated and I very much like that you don’t HAVE to subscribe to a model to buy PPV content, you just don’t get the “free” subscriber only content.

Thanks for reading/listening. Still the best!!!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
1 year 10 months ago

This is the feedback I am really looking for. Thanks for this well thought out comment.

About some of the content from Valensia and Anisa: If it was up to me solely, the content would not have been there. However, I have given lots of leeway to Anita’s crew, as she is the boss of Anisa and Val. She made MC in the beginning, so I have allowed her crew to do as they please for a long time now. At MF, they upload what they want. We knew from the beginning that Val and Anisa were the ones who would do the most racy content.

For now, we are okay with Val, Simona, and Anisa doing their own type of content. For our newer models who have MF pages, this content still isn’t allowed, and it will stay that way as I am in control of those model’s pages, and not Anita. Right now, you can think of things as a border wall in terms of content between models. On one side, you’ll have Anita’s crew, where they are free to make the content they want, as long as it’s legal. On the other side of this border, will be the Marvel side, where we have our own rules and limits for our models. As long as I am in control of all models aside from Anita’s crew, the rules I stated about HC content still applies. While Anita, Simona, and Val are a big part of MF right now, they are only a subsection of the current MC family.

It seems that you and others are okay with the “style” of content from Val and them, but prefer it to be G/G instead. So I will give recommendations to push more in that direction, rather than content with their significant other. However, there are no guarantees I can make it happen. But I’ll do my best.

I appreciate the feedback and support.

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MarvelFan
1 year 10 months ago

Thanks for the explanation, this is really good insight. I always appreciate your candor and transparency. Sorry, I kind of threw your own words back at you. I was just really taken by surprise today.

I’ve been a fan of Val since before MC and I wasn’t that surprised by her making b/g content. Simona has quickly become a new favorite, and her bj video wasn’t expected. In hindsight, I probably shouldn’t have been so surprised by Anisa’s new video. She’s easily one of my all time favorite models since joining MC, and she’s always been incredibly bold. It’s clear from the preview she was really enjoying the moment, and that’s awesome.

When I saw the preview Anita posted, I was excited at first, but then I started to get more concerned about the implications. It’s mostly a concern that things were escalating rapidly in a direction I hadn’t anticipated. But your explanation makes a lot of sense.

Glad to hear you understand my concerns and not everyone will be moving in that direction too soon. Maybe, I’ll grow to embrace this type of content on MF in time. I certainly am not trying to spoil the party for others, and I don’t want to limit the models’ earning potential either. I trust that you know what you are doing, and will do my best to enjoy the ride wherever it goes.

And yes, I’m quite happy with the content coming from Anita and company (and others, of course), in general. I appreciate what she and her group have contributed to MC and now at MF. My only feedback is maybe just a little less dick. LOL! Oh, and I’d love to see Naomi come to one of the other sites (and more at MF), based on the couple of teases on MF, she looks incredible!

Thanks again for the response and listening to your fans.