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MF Discussion Part 3

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Boss
Marvel Administrator
14 days 2 hours ago

Hi all, I have made a decision going forward on some content at MF.

Going forward, B/G content that shows the other sex will not be allowed on the platform.

We will, however, allow certain simulated content, which we will relay the affected models, that we will review on a case by case basis.
For example: If a model wants to show the “aftermath” of an intimate moment, this will be allowed under our current rules. Any type of fluids on their body are allowed to be simulated as well. If you need a good example of these, there are lots of Japanese style content that isn’t necessarily hardcore which implements this effectively. I’ll try to give examples of this in the future for those curious.

Any content that appears on the feeds showing b/g sex content will be removed if we find it. If you see locked content that you think is b/g based on its description but aren’t sure, know that we have verified it and given it the “OK”.

The reasoning for this decision was as follows, and mentioned in a previous post of mine.

The risk of customer alienation here is too high from those in the purity camp and tolerant camp to allow certain types of content. Meanwhile, for those in the “Anything Goes” camp, while you still approve of the content, you would not dislike our sites or leave if we blocked certain content going forward. The people in the Anything Goes camp will still be with us even if we forbid certain content, whereas the other two camps of people would possibly leave if we allowed it.

Therefore, the solution is to simply not allow it, because nobody would leave our sites based on this decision.

However, for pure model fans, please understand that it is difficult to perform strictly “modeling” outside of the studio. A website with just selfies, or models out and about and not doing anything sexy would become boring and uninteresting after awhile. So while I agree that things should stay similar to how MC and TM are, remember that MF can’t be directly compared to these sites because creators cannot duplicate the professional modeling quality using their phones. Since they do not have the same tools to create content, we have to give them some freedom to make different types of content that may be sexier or different than what you find here.

We will evaluate the demand for other types of content going forward. I realize we cannot please all parties, but my job is to create the best middle ground that most can agree upon and tolerate. I appreciate all the comments and feedback, your input is invaluable. You are free to continue discussions here or ask me questions.

Thank you!

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Fer
14 days 36 minutes ago

I Like the New hot vídeos
Please dont stop pleaseeeee

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Berwin K
13 days 22 hours ago

Maybe customers don’t leave MC or TM but what about the models? What if they are on the “anything goes” camp? Arn’t other studios a more lucrative for them? I dont want to see the girls go :-(

Boss
Marvel Administrator
13 days 21 hours ago

Our decision included the models as well, not just the customers. And I will not give out specific numbers, but support for these models has been the highest ever (even at TM and MC), and none have been opposed to our decisions thus far. Nobody is leaving. If there ever is an issue, we will address it.

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HJ
14 days 1 hour ago

I think it is a good decision. Regarding the selfies and out and about, I very much want to see that from time to time, free for subscribers at least.

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Paul
13 days 17 hours ago

Yep, I’d really like to see more selfies and informal out and about stuff too. The models are special and that kind of content is another way fans can appreciate them. I’m also very relieved the move to HC has been abandoned. I just don’t know why anyone at Marvel ever thought it would be a good idea. I’m sure a lot of the most popular MC models would never have joined in the first place if they thought that was going to be the direction.
And finally, please don’t blur the boundaries too much between MC and TM. NN tease, creativity and charm is what makes MC special. Toys, stronger g/g action and full-on nudity are best kept to TM.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
13 days 17 hours ago

If any of the newer models do stronger action, they would probably be moved over to TM. We keep the classic models (Valensia & Crew) here because they were the origin of MC.

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MHS
13 days 22 hours ago

Hi,

Why do guys like to complicate things aftermath beforematch extra-time penalty shootout 😆 😆 . How much creativity can a model do with the cum on her face!!! HC I understand there are a lot of ways to make things very interesting but aftermatch really. Why is this still topic still going on!!! Sorry but I am against this. You are just building bridges leading to HC. What next Japanese censored porn or selling it under the table!!!! You said yourself Phoebe is the most popular of them all for a reason and the most popular ones on OF are not doing nude. Then why do this!! Their no middle for this, either do HC or not. You just opening doors for a possibility for HC stuff in the future. You have already broken your own rules in less than a month then what makes you not break them again!!! Are sales that bad in TM/MC to make the models go to this level!!!

Sorry if my comment sounds harsh. There should be a line no model no fan, and not even you can cross it.

“Our models are also NOT going to be putting out content on MF that is hardcore. Our goal is to support models as much as we can, but even we have boundaries.”

This is not the first time you keeping broken your own promises and will not be the last. This is your website at the end of the day. You can do whatever you want but STOP PLAYING GAMES WITH US and STOP PLAYING WITH OUR EMOTIONS.

Thanks for reading :)

Boss
Marvel Administrator
13 days 22 hours ago

My example was just that: an example. We could go back and forth forever. One could say toys are too far and already a bridge, because they’re “simulating” the real thing.
“You just opening doors for a possibility for HC stuff in the future.” – I don’t think it’s smart to close off any doors to potential future content, but for MF I have made the decision, and the decision is final.
“and the most popular ones on MF are not doing nude. Then why do this!!” One could say the same about MC. There are plenty of models here who do much more than the NN models. You say there is no middle, but MC already is in the middle.

I never claimed everyone would be happy with the decision. Some on the purity side will be against it, and some on the anything goes side will be against it. This decision is not meant to make everyone happy, it is meant to make the least amount of people unhappy.

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Corvin
13 days 11 hours ago

I am a little amazed how some people here deny the models ability to make sound decisions over their lives.
Phoebe won’t go hardcore just because ‘the cool kids are doing it’ and Anita’s girls have been itching to do softcore for years.

The point is wether or not we want the girls riding dicks and since that opens the entire can of Wyrms that the AV industry has to deal with – Actual immediate pressure by on set actors and team, physical stress (and casual violence), studios demanding scheduled ‘performances’, fan backlash and emotional bleeding into other franchises – NOT DOING it is a safer and more healthy bet.
Solo stuff removes the former half and girl-on-girl action very often prevents the latter. Any transition into harder style should be guided and mediated by photographers and publishers.

Exceptions can always be made but they prove the rules in place AND those rules will change if the models / creators affected by them demand it so.

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Gui
13 days 21 hours ago

That is incredibly disappointing. Oh well…

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Steve P
13 days 21 hours ago

I’m in the anything goes camp and as much as I’m bummed I do understand. It’s really the decision that makes the most sense. I didn’t get the chance to buy some of the b/g things I was hoping to but I do have a couple questions that I guess could also be passed on to the models themselves too. Would we still be able to buy the previously released content that I’m guessing is removed or going to be soon, even if directly from the models and at a high price? And also on that note, I haven’t sent a dm but can we ask for custom harder content? I forget if that was mentioned before in the other discussion threads, and to be honest it’s a lot of reading right now lol

Boss
Marvel Administrator
13 days 20 hours ago

Any content currently on their pages will stay. As for private messaging of b/g content, that is not allowed. You are allowed to request content that fits within a models style. So if it’s a tease model, you can request tease style content similar to what is on MC (nothing further). For models like Valensia, Anisa, etc, they are free to do anything up until b/g content.

I apologize for all the confusion on this topic. We didn’t do a great job, but want to make it clear now going forward.

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Dude
12 days 22 hours ago

“As for private messaging of b/g content, that is not allowed.”

Wait a minute… b/g content doesn’t interest me. BUT, are you saying you spy on private chats with models?
If true, hiding such a thing is particularly serious!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
12 days 14 hours ago

No, we don’t read your private chats. However, we are required to monitor any content (photo/video) that’s uploaded to the MF website. If we found that content to be outside of our rules, it would eventually have to be traced back its origin.
Once again, all of these features and the use of the website in general is a privilege. If someone decides to abuse their privilege, it can be taken away.

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Dude
12 days 5 hours ago

It seems reasonable. Dangerous or illegal links are of course to be avoided to protect the site and the models.

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FarAndAway217
13 days 16 hours ago

Guys… Rikki is coming back. Literally nothing else matters at this point.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
13 days 16 hours ago

This was all just a ruse to get Rikki back. Mission accomplished. Carry on. 😉

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M
13 days 1 hour ago

LOL yes, except I want Nika, Lena also to come baaaack

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Dee
13 days 15 hours ago

Personally I think you guys have been doing a good job, this is just part of the process listening to feedback and refining. Personally following some of these models and having them offer more spicy content is pretty exciting, having years of tease and seeing what I have seen has been awesome so far!! I think Toys and G/G content is more on the sexy end and would be so sad if that stopped so I’m glad your still allowing that. I know you’ve made your decision on no HC which I think makes sense but possibly in the future consider allowing models if they wanted to personally offer that to a fan in private messaging should be allowed, I don’t see how that would hurt the purist of MC, If you want pure MC then buy the sets on MC, Marvelfans is a more personal connection with models they like and different models have different style and it would be great for them to express that if they want. As you mentioned your numbers are way up (CONGRATS!!) and one reason possibly is also the excitement of being able to see more 😉 A few general feedback areas that I see is having an idea of the amount of content your purchasing so that you don’t feel disappointed or have and expectation gap. For example when a video is posted with no time stamp of it’s 50 bucks but is only 1 min long it feels disappointing. I think most of us would agree when a video is posted and is only 30sec long that is a massive bummer when you drop 20 or 30 bucks. I believe adding a time stamp to all videos uploaded would solve that.
Keep up the great work!!

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M
13 days 54 minutes ago

DM/Custom HC is bad because it will put pressure on the models. Truth is there are idiots on the web those who does not respect models and expect more and more and more and more. Even if we in the comment here do respect the models I think the site better keep away from HC. I have seen sites die because the go to far before. For most popular models it takes five second and then some idiot post the “customs” on a public site and the models/photographers shutdown the bussiness.

Also HC may get bad reputation recruit new teasing young models such as Phoebe, Sabinka, Vanessa, HF and now Rikki :) and not forgotten: Nika, Polina and Lena (btw where are they I miss them!)

Don’t forget MC/TM is that is almost only one doing this kind of quality content this days. We should not forget that.

Also we can never get exact what we want. Like it or not but in the end we probably all agree that we don’t want TM/MC to die instead we want them to expand 😉

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Corvin
12 days 19 hours ago

The day HC content is leaked, is when most models die or turn it into a vice of virtue. But you need to be that kind of girl to make the transition successful.

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Mo Sadiq
13 days 12 hours ago

I think this is a good compromise. I don’t see anything wrong with suggestion or simulation. I think people should accept the decision & move on now.

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GaviaO
13 days 7 hours ago

Yeah, I understand all of this, but I think it would be nice to allow the girls to sell anything they want via DM…

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Manuello
13 days 3 hours ago

Did I miss something? When did the models do B/G?

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Ric
13 days 1 hour ago

I know I’m not the biggest buyer here, so my comments are worth less, however I would still like to give my opinion.

Prohibition is never a good thing. These are grown up girls, they do want they want, and they should be allowed to do so. I think limiting in a general ideia is a bad thing. I prefer you like, you buy, you don’t like, don’t buy.

I read a lot of comments and I’m amazed our people are so full of their own, this is not YOUR playground, it’s THEIRS (models), they should be the ones deciding, not you. I’m always for the “live and let live” instead of “all of you should live the way I think is right”.

That’s it. I’m sad you are limiting, but it is what it is. Unfortunately in the long run, some will for sure go OF or something like that to show their content, while through MF, they would have a platform that would care for them and extend their career. But you took your decision and it is what it is…

Thanks

Boss
Marvel Administrator
12 days 22 hours ago

While I agree with some of your points, a lot of models in general make assumptions on what the consumer wants from their content. They assume harder / sexier content = more money, which isn’t always the case. It is their playground, but it must be built and catered to what the majority of the audience wants. In the end, the ladies want to make money.

We have already opened up many more possibilities for their content on MF. Some of the content on MF would never have been available here at MC. It’s still unknown how they will capitalize on some of their new freedoms.

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ManniLaferrti
12 days 22 hours ago

I want Katrin back. Does anyone know if she will come back?

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Richard P
12 days 17 hours ago

I would like to know one final thing, though. Do the models have an exclusivity contract with you? In other words, if Val, for example, goes and does a hard-core video and peddles it elsewhere, is she for bidden by contract to come back and do, say, girl girl with Rebecca here? Or even just a nude set?

Boss
Marvel Administrator
12 days 14 hours ago

All models at MC are under exclusive contract, yes.
What you’re asking wouldn’t be allowed, but to me those usually are acts of desperation (e.g. the model isn’t getting paid enough from their work). If a model is comfortable with their income and position, they wouldn’t need to try and sell contact through third party means. Thankfully you all support the models with more than enough to keep them happy!

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marducks
12 days 9 hours ago

I think it’s for the best.

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folatemc
12 days 1 hour ago

I’ve been reading all the comments on here but haven’t had chance to reply until now so I hope i’m not too late. I understand and accept everyone’s point of view from the ‘anything goes’ crowd to the ‘tease and tasteful’ crew but I have a suggestion that could satisfy all.

As well as each individual site for the models why not have a page for any girl who wishes to post their HC and more extreme content. Make being able to view this page subscription only so that only those that want to view it can.

The girls’ main page will remain free from content that some fans don’t want to see but others will still have the opportunity to get the content currently prohibited.

Hopefully everybody wins!

Boss
Marvel Administrator
12 days 1 hour ago

There are some who believe anything hardcore attached with the “Marvel” modeling brand is unacceptable. And there are some who simply don’t want to see their model with another guy (it ruins the fantasy). I am not opposed to making a separate website for a model if they wanted to go a harder route, but it would need to be a very convincing case. Your idea would solve the issue of the MF feed page having b/g mixed in with modeling content though.

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Agave
11 days 15 hours ago

“There are some who believe anything hardcore attached with the “Marvel” modeling brand is unacceptable. And there are some who simply don’t want to see their model with another guy (it ruins the fantasy).”

Eww. Weird. weird and gross. I feel like it implies some level of ownership over this other human being. I mean, I get that it might not be a product they are interested in buying. It just feels wrong to tell a female that they can’t do a thing with their body.

Boss
Marvel Administrator
11 days 15 hours ago

Fair point.

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andrew
11 days 8 hours ago

@Agave. The first part you quoted is known as “brand association”. You should look it up… because none of it has ANYTHING to do implying ownership over a human being. Of course the girls are free to do whatever they want, the argument is whether or not this is the proper venue to do so.

Also, how do you equate ‘Ruining the fantasy’ to telling a female they can’t do something? What!? No one is saying that at all…

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Ricardo
11 days 18 hours ago

the solution of having a site only for hardcore and B/G content is amazing, I belong to the ‘anything goes’ group but I also understand and respect the point of view of those who disagree

I would pay subscription to hardcore content without thinking about it, and having it separate from MC and MF solves everything